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Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė gnom » Ant Geg 15, 2012 7:28 pm

Sveiki, vairuoju senute Laguna 94 1.8 bendzinas/dujos. Ir taigi iškilo keletas problemų, pirmoji tai pasunkėjo užkūrimo laikas, seniau kurdavosi kaip bitutė dabar kažko labai jau nenoriai, atrodo viskas normaliai suka bet tenka netrumpai "pakarkint" kol užsikuria. Antroji problema tai apsukos - užkūrus auto dirba gražiai, apsukas laisvai laiko ant ~1000 , pavažinėjus kury laika (gerokai apšilus varikliui) laikosi 0,9. bet apšilus varikliui spausk gaza kiek tik nori apsukos nekyla virš 3100. Staigiai spaudinėjant gaza pavyksta sukelti iki ~4000-4300. Trečioji problema susijusi su antrąja, važiuojant apsukos taipogi nenori labai kilti, gerokai užmynus gaza Laguna "neskuba"... Ir tiesiog kai apsukos pakyla ~3000 auto pradeda purtytis ir trukčioti. Kažin kame galėtu būti problema ?
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė Nitrogex » Ant Geg 15, 2012 7:47 pm

I don't drive fast, I use to fly slow..

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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė gnom » Ant Geg 15, 2012 8:17 pm

Švarus, oro filtras dar šiandien buvo išimtas ir švariai išvalytas. p.s. žvakės ir žvaklaidžiai nesenai pakeisti.
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė Tadasas » Ant Geg 15, 2012 8:22 pm

o kaip ant benzino?
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė gnom » Tre Geg 16, 2012 5:02 am

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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė sHadow » Tre Geg 16, 2012 7:39 am

O kaip kompresija? Didėjant apkrovai gal per kur nors ima dingti konpresija?
Apie mane: - mano darbas, - mano hobis, o - pašaukimas.
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė afg082 » Tre Geg 16, 2012 9:16 am

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Standartinė fogman » Tre Geg 16, 2012 3:27 pm

Laguna tikrai ne automobilis,o transporto priemone
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė sHadow » Tre Geg 16, 2012 3:56 pm

Ai, čia kažkada BMW forume skaitinėjau apie panašią problemą (kadangi turiu antrą BMW, su kuriuo tėvas bėgioja), tai apsilankau. Ten būdavo, kad keliant apsukas ima mašiniukas įsikalinėt. Viską siūlė, nuo lemda zondo keitimo, vakumo šlangų skylių paieškos, filtrų, žvakių ir net katalizatoriaus. :-) Rezultate viskas baigės tuo, kad pasikeitė variklio tarpinę ir dingo bėda. :D Tad ir pasidomėjau. O vdruk kokia žvakė neprisukta. :-)
Apie mane: - mano darbas, - mano hobis, o - pašaukimas.
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė pokerboy » Tre Geg 16, 2012 5:17 pm

gali buti kazkas su kibirkstim, zvakes,zvaklaidziai ,skriejikas , babina
ex ford fiesta 1,6D
ex nisan bluabird 2,0D
ex golf2 1,8
ex rover 216
ex audi 90
ex reno 19 94m 1,8
ex reno laguna 1,8
ex reno scenic 1,6 98m
dabar reno grand scenic 2005m 1,9 88kw
dabar reno laguna 2002 1,9 88kw
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė sHadow » Tre Geg 16, 2012 5:28 pm

O šiaip, su testeriu būtų įmanoma patikrint babyną? Nes.. toks pasakymas, kad babyna bludyja gan abstraktus. Be pakeitimo sunkiai patikrinsi.
Apie mane: - mano darbas, - mano hobis, o - pašaukimas.
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė pokerboy » Tre Geg 16, 2012 6:41 pm

tai pradek nuo zvakiu ir zvaklaidziu po viena zvaklaidi atjunk ir stebek ar pridusta variklis jai taip tada imk skriejika zemen ir ziurek pagal laida kuris kontaktas neveikia. jai tai nepadeda tada reiketu pameginti pakeisti pagrindini zvaklaidi. o tik tada tikrinti babina. na manau kad betkuris elektrikas turetu pajegti patikrinti ytampa
ex ford fiesta 1,6D
ex nisan bluabird 2,0D
ex golf2 1,8
ex rover 216
ex audi 90
ex reno 19 94m 1,8
ex reno laguna 1,8
ex reno scenic 1,6 98m
dabar reno grand scenic 2005m 1,9 88kw
dabar reno laguna 2002 1,9 88kw
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė gnom » Tre Geg 16, 2012 8:17 pm

Sendien besikrapstinedamas garaze, kaskaip sumaniau patikrint kaip auto reaguoja i "leta gaza" ( ne mynima staigiai iki dugno, o tiesiog is leto prispaudziant gaza) minant staigiai Lagunikes apsukos nekyla auksciau 3100. O spaudziant is leto apsukos kyla neskubedamos aukstyn kiek tik nori. Tad kilo tokia ideja jog kaskas turetu but netaip su kuro misiniu. Bet per liesas tikrai neturetu but,( stengiuos gerai maitint masinike.) :) Gal sios pastabos sukels dar kamnors kokiu ideju?
P.s. dekui pokerboy uz ideja, ryt reike pamegint pereit per visas zvakes ir zvaklaidzius po viena.
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Standartinė pokerboy » Ket Geg 17, 2012 3:38 pm

prasom . pasiziurek dar vakumine slanga ar nera uzsikimsus jai dujos yra
ex ford fiesta 1,6D
ex nisan bluabird 2,0D
ex golf2 1,8
ex rover 216
ex audi 90
ex reno 19 94m 1,8
ex reno laguna 1,8
ex reno scenic 1,6 98m
dabar reno grand scenic 2005m 1,9 88kw
dabar reno laguna 2002 1,9 88kw
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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė mogili » Pir Geg 21, 2012 10:11 am

Cia del tu zvaklaidziu nueminejimo, neseniai ir as sau taip dariau, keistas pastebejimas, nuemus viena zvaklaidi (butu cilindras esantis arciausiai dirzo, tai speju pirmas? jame kompresija 8.5..), variklio darbas netrupucio nepakinta, nuemus kitus susipurto, pradeda netaip lygiai dirbti. Tiesa laisvais sukiais variklis dirba negraziai, jauciasi jog vienas cilindras neveikia taip kaip turetu, itariu kad tas su maziausia kompresija ir nereguojantis i zvaklaidzio nuemima.

Zvaklaidziai pakeisti, variklis 2.0 F3R dvi babinos, babina is kurios kibirkstis keliauja i ta nevisai veikianti cilindra neseniai keista (t.y nauja, o ne nauja deveta :D).

Kompresija eiles tvarka nuo dirzo puses: 8,5 (ilasinus siektiek tepaliuko - 12); 11.0 (ilasinus siektiek tepaliuko - 13.5 ) ; 11.0 ; 10,2.

Pries ~ 14k km sudetos 4 kartos dujos, voztuvai nereguliuoti, gal kiek kalena. Ausinimo skystis nedingsta.
Gal kokiu nuomoniu, pasiulymu?
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Standartinė sHadow » Pir Geg 21, 2012 2:53 pm

Kur pirkai agregatą kompresijau matuot? :)
Apie mane: - mano darbas, - mano hobis, o - pašaukimas.
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Standartinė afg082 » Pir Geg 21, 2012 3:03 pm

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Re: Apsukos,dusimas....

Standartinė pokerboy » Pir Geg 21, 2012 5:28 pm

tai arba babina nepaduoda kibirksties arba zvakei kaput. del to darbas variklio nesikeicia jog tas cilindras ir taip nedirba
ex ford fiesta 1,6D
ex nisan bluabird 2,0D
ex golf2 1,8
ex rover 216
ex audi 90
ex reno 19 94m 1,8
ex reno laguna 1,8
ex reno scenic 1,6 98m
dabar reno grand scenic 2005m 1,9 88kw
dabar reno laguna 2002 1,9 88kw
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Standartinė mogili » Pir Geg 21, 2012 6:51 pm

bet as manau, kad turetu prasciau masina vaziuot ant triju cilindru.. nes na trauka tai lyg ir yra :lol:
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Standartinė mogili » Pir Geg 21, 2012 6:53 pm

gal koks budas tiksliai patikrint ar tas cilindras neveikia? pagal zvake gal matytusi? zvakes irgi naujos ngk
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